Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sun, 01 August 2021 21:52 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site
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On 02-Aug-21 08:44, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>     > Who keeps an eye on the tools material on the IETF web site?
> 
> AMSL can do updates, and emails to support@ietf.org work well for this.

Yes, but I think that they can't be expected to be proactive in
identifying gaps and updates. When I was in the EDU team (the ancestor
of EMO) I tried to do this, but I'm not sure we really have a mechanism
for it. For example:
 
>     > While trying to assist a possible new contributor, I fell upon:
>     > https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tutorials/process/creating-internet-drafts-and-rfcs/
>     > which looks badly in need of a refresh to me. For example, it misses the excellent tutorial at:
>     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-edu-sessf-how-to-create-an-internet-draft-using-xml-or-markdown-markdown-01

Who decides that this is the latest & best material to promote
on the site? Not my job, and probably not AMSL's.

>     > We can have the best tools in the world, but they are no good to
>     > newcomers unless the main IETF web site is actively maintained.
> 
> I'd put the ietf.org contents on a gitlab and take pull requests.

I don't know if the content management system could work like that,
but I agree that crowdsourcing of some kind would be handy.

   Brian