[Tools-discuss] Re: xml2rfc: boldface in Noto Sans

Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@staff.rfc-editor.org> Tue, 23 September 2025 22:03 UTC

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Hi all,

On 9/22/25 10:39 PM, Kesara Rathnayake wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 23 Sept 2025 at 14:43, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net 
> <mailto:mt@lowentropy.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Do you have a plan for all the broken documents that have been
>     produced so far?  In particular, is this a problem for published
>     RFCs?  I don't know how many of those depend on having boldface.
> 
> 
> There are 54 published RFCs that use the `<strong>` element.
> I'm not sure about the severity of this problem.

[JM] Any RFC that uses the <bcp14/> tag is also impacted by this.

> 
> We have the option to host https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc-local.css 
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc-local.css> with updated CSS.
> And the other option is regenerating HTML.
> I guess it's up to the RPC to make a call on this.

[JM] The RPC and Tools Team are discussing how to best handle this.

Best regards,
Jean

> 
>    --Kesara
> 
> 
>     On Tue, Sep 23, 2025, at 11:47, Kesara Rathnayake wrote:
>      > Hi Martin,
>      >
>      > We are working on hosting these fonts by ourselves.
>      > See https://github.com/ietf-tools/xml2rfc/issues/1281 <https://
>     github.com/ietf-tools/xml2rfc/issues/1281>
>      >
>      > Cheers,
>      > Kesara
>      >
>      > On Tue, 23 Sept 2025 at 12:00, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net
>     <mailto:mt@lowentropy.net>> wrote:
>      >> When you say "this", do you mean hosting fonts or updating
>     existing files to include a functioning set of fonts?
>      >>
>      >> BTW, https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?
>     family=Noto+Sans:ital,wght@0,100..900;1,100..900&display=swap
>     <https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?
>     family=Noto+Sans:ital,wght@0,100..900;1,100..900&display=swap> would
>     be a better URL.  The font they serve there is fully variable. 
>     However, that doesn't allow you to adjust if that URL goes away
>     though and it seems like that's a risk.
>      >>
>      >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025, at 03:52, Robert Sparks wrote:
>      >> > We're working towards this.
>      >> >
>      >> > On 9/22/25 3:07 AM, Martin Thomson wrote:
>      >> >> it would be good if the fonts were moved to be hosted on
>     ietf.org <http://ietf.org> or rfc-editor.org <http://rfc-editor.org>
>      >>
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