[Tools-discuss] some more meetecho thoughts
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Fri, 12 March 2021 15:14 UTC
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Some thoughts/refinements. I think we are supposed to post them here, right? 1) when the participants clicks on the _share screen_ button that it should immediately ask the participant to select the window to share, but just not transmit until the chair gives them the media slot. Ideally, showing the participant what they are transmitting. This would eliminate many of the delays in switching presenters. (Unified slide decks are good, but not always better if the agenda is more fluid.) But, I think, the more important thing is that it would allow participants to sort out the local permissions, browser compatibility, etc. and they could do this if they wanted, in the three minutes before the meeting starts. It might also be good if multiple slide sharers could be "on deck", with the chair switching between them. {Personally, I'd even like to have multiple windows shared and swap between them fast, but that's perhaps too esoteric.} 2) it would be really cool if the chairs could see a preview of the share before they agree, but that's really not required :-) 3) could chairs give presentation permission to a participant before they ask? that seems to occupy 10s of back and forth in some meetings. Yes, that's an interaction with (1). 4) of course, doing it the BBB way, projecting PDF from a server, and allowing the mouse to hover, even draw, is WAY better, so (1) above is really only important if this isn't coming. 5) I'd sure like to put all the video frames under my slides. Others might disagree, but that seems to fit my screen real-estate better. I want the slides bigger. ---- While we've had training session for chairs, and some for participants, it's not enough I think. It would be great if there was a room online, perhaps configured for 5 participants max, where the first person to arrive gets chair permission. (And maybe the room would reboot every hour or so) If nothing else, that would let mentoring on the tool occur. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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