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Re: [Tools-discuss] Datatracker login for errata

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Thu, 01 June 2023 20:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Datatracker login for errata
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On 6/1/23 3:36 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 02-Jun-23 07:35, Jean Mahoney wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On 5/28/23 4:27 PM, Bob Hinden wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>>> On May 28, 2023, at 2:14 PM, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 28 May 2023, Tim Wicinski wrote:
>>>>> Could the errata require email address confirmation or is that too 
>>>>> much?
>>>> I suppose so, SMOP.  The scripts are in the same place as the 
>>>> HTMLizer.
>>> Any way to see what percentage of non-spam errata are from people 
>>> who do have data tracker accounts?
>> [JM] For 2022, only 40% of the addresses that were used to report
>> non-spam errata can be linked to a datatracker account.
>
> I've lost track. Do you also see spam from people who *do* have a DT 
> account?

I'll help answer that with real data, but I'm not sure how knowing would 
affect what we're discussing?

Assume the answer is yes, then what? It's not like they created the 
account to make errata reports so far. (Are you just trying to ask if 
people have already created junk datatracker accounts - the answer to 
that requires making some assumptions about whether an account that was 
created is then not used for anything other than perhaps getting onto 
the mailing-list global allow list, but I think we have rather a lot of 
them.

If the answer is no, it's still not clear to me how that helps decide 
what barriers to put in front of the errata system.

>
>    Brian
>
>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
>>>> Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. 
>>>> https://jl.ly
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