Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Fri, 11 September 2020 09:25 UTC

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Am 10.09.2020 um 19:50 schrieb Carsten Bormann:
> ...
> Right.  A reference to https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud-04.html currently only gives a generic 404 page.
> What it maybe should do is a display a switch page that provides a brief explanation about expiry and replacement of I-Ds and then offers links to
>
> — the archive page https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud-04.html
> — the current page https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud-05.html (or the RFC), if any
>
> Also, we should design most places that give out the https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud-04.html link to instead give out a timeless link like https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud.html (which currently doesn’t work).
>
> Cool URIs don’t change: https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html
> ...

+1

That said, we absolutely need a stable URI template for HTML versions of
*any* draft, be it current or expired, and no matter whether it was
generated as v3 HTML output or just htmlized.

Otherwise, a formatter does not have sufficient information what links
to generate for "deep links" into internet drafts, or in references.
This is likely the reason why xml2rfc still generates links to
tools.ietf.org, although www.ietf.org has the "modern" HTML version.

(and the same is true for rfc2629.xslt, but here the default can be
overriden on a case-by-case basis).

Best regards, Julian