Re: [Tools-discuss] [Cellar] non-ascii characters (fwd) Dave Rice: non-ascii characters

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Fri, 30 August 2019 07:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [Cellar] non-ascii characters (fwd) Dave Rice: non-ascii characters
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On 30.08.2019 07:16, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> ...
> I’m not aware of an opportunity for that (well, maybe except for the choice between en-dashes and em-dashes for the punctuation mark in the form of a horizontal line used to indicate a pause, to delimit an inserted sentence or phrase, or to indicate a deliberately omitted word).    But given that this is the IETF, I’m sure we’ll find one :-)

AFAIR, there are also different opinions about whether there should be
whitespace around it.

> More seriously, this is one place where copy-editing can simply solve the problem.

That is true.

>> My recollection is that we started with the use cases that seemed most
>> important back then. I'll also note that Unicode math characters won't
>> be sufficient in all cases, so MathML definitively is something to
>> consider as well.
>
> Having math characters available is not a valid replacement for something like MathML.
> Being able to throw in some casual in-line math (that an authoring tool would convert to the right characters) is useful, though.  As in ⌈a⌉ and friends…  (Nobody would argue that I can’t use a*b in a spec to talk about the product of a and b, so why not a∉B or ∀x.x²≥0.)
>
> Grüße, Carsten

Ack. Just explaining how we got there.

Best regards, Julian