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Re: [Tools-discuss] Historical information on leadership positions

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 26 November 2019 21:32 UTC

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To: Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net>, tools-discuss@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Historical information on leadership positions
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> I wonder if recreating the history of the higher-level
> leadership positions (IESG and IAB, but not working group chairs) would
> be worthwhile.

That's all on the IESG and IAB web pages, but not in the same format.
https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/past-members/
https://www.iab.org/about/history/ (page down to "IAB Members")

Regards
   Brian

On 27-Nov-19 09:31, Jim Fenton wrote:
> On 11/26/19 7:44 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> 
>> On 2019-11-26 16:35, Robert Sparks wrote:
>>> Hi Jim -
>>>
>>> The short answer is "no, the datatracker doesn't have this information".
>>>
>>> Giving it this information would be a herculean task - I've started to 
>>> make runs at it a few times over the years. The effort would ultimately 
>>> rely on collecting people's memories.
>>>
>>> There is a notion of GroupHistory/RoleHistory that was designed to 
>>> capture this kind of thing, but the GroupHistory objects haven't been 
>>> consistently created every time roles change.
>>>
>>> For instance, you can't see from the datatracker that, or when, I was 
>>> chair of SIMPLE for many years. The best you can tell is that I was its 
>>> AD when it closed.
>>>
>>> Henrik may have more to add.
>> I've nothing to add about past history.  Going forward, it's certainly
>> possible to add support for a more comprehensive role history which would
>> let us show such per-person historical information in the future.
>>
> I suspected datatracker might not have the history.
> 
> Perhaps it would be a good idea to start collecting role history so that
> we can perhaps use it in the future. I'll submit an enhancement ticket
> for that. I wonder if recreating the history of the higher-level
> leadership positions (IESG and IAB, but not working group chairs) would
> be worthwhile. Doesn't seem like that subset would be quite herculean.
> 
> -Jim
> 
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