Re: [Tools-discuss] Proposal to discontinue live mp3 audio streams at IETF meetings

"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Thu, 01 October 2020 14:43 UTC

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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Proposal to discontinue live mp3 audio streams at IETF meetings
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Hello Robert

I believe many agree as I do. If all respond like I also do that will be a lot of traffic for you.
Could you use an online poll, or say that you expect people who do not agree to reply?

Keep safe,

Pascal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Robert
> Sparks
> Sent: jeudi 1 octobre 2020 16:32
> To: ietf-announce@ietf.org
> Subject: Proposal to discontinue live mp3 audio streams at IETF meetings
> 
> We propose to discontinue producing live mp3 audio streams for IETF
> meetings, starting with IETF 109 and we want to hear from the community
> before we do.
> 
> At many past meetings we have produced live mp3 streams for each session.
> These steams have been associated with physical meeting rooms, and
> appeared before and during the session as a link on the agenda page to a URL
> like
> 'http://mp3.conf.meetecho.com/ietf/ietf<some_number_associated_with_the
> _room>.m3u'.
> 
> 
> For the last several meetings, these have only been available as a live
> stream.
> Recordings of that stream have not been made available after the
> meeting. The
> full video recording provided by Meetecho has served as the way to listen to
> (or watch) any given session after the fact.
> 
> Further, for the last several meetings, the live streams have seen very
> light
> use, on the order of 10 uses for IETF 108.
> 
> Now that we are holding more meetings online, we have a requirement to
> allow
> meetings to run outside their scheduled times. Allowing the live streams
> to run
> outside their scheduled times will require changing how they are
> represented,
> to no longer be associated with "rooms" or "tracks". The code refactor
> at both
> the datatracker and at meetecho to support would not be a huge effort,
> but it
> also would not be tiny. Instead, we feel that removing this complexity,
> recognizing that the regular meetecho connection and recordings satisfy the
> need, is the better use of our resources. That holds true even for future
> in-person meetings.
> 
> There are several points that have been considered while arriving at this
> proposal:
> 
> * Chairs use the recordings to fill in minutes.
> 
>      For the last several meetings, the chairs have been using the Meetecho
>      recordings for this purpose. Recordings of the live mp3 streams haven't
>      been available.
> 
> * Some participants (especially ADs) want to listen to more than one
> meeting at
>    a time.
> 
>      Meetecho allows joining multiple sessions.
> 
> * Some participants may not have the bandwidth or a new enough computer
> to run
>    meetecho.
> 
>      The use of the mp3 streams has been very low at the last several
> meetings.
>      This population isn't using the mp3 streams to address the posited
>      limitations.  If this is a     concern that some people think they
> will
>      experience then we can look at asking Meetecho to allow sending only
>      audio (muting all video).
> 
> * This removes a mechanism that allowed people to listen to a session in
>    real-time without paying a registration fee.
> 
>     There will be ongoing discussion and tuning of the meeting registration
>     structure. In the meantime, the fee waiver program is available and
> being
>     improved.
> 
> Please send comments by 16 Oct 2020 either to tools-discuss@ietf.org or
> directly to rjsparks@nostrum.com.
> 
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