Re: [Tools-discuss] Clarifying the state of and the transition plan for

"Andrew G. Malis" <> Thu, 11 March 2021 14:21 UTC

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Thanks. much appreciated!


On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 9:10 AM Robert Sparks <> wrote:

> On 3/11/21 8:08 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Robert,
> Are you also porting the tools at
> , especially the online
> version of KramDown?
> Yes, the planned replacement online xml2rfc service will have all of those
> conversions available.
> Thanks,
> Andy
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 1:16 PM Robert Sparks <> wrote:
>> The services at are undergoing a transition.
>> As most of you know Henrik Levkowetz has retired. He is continuing to
>> support
>> the services that he has provided for decades at on a best
>> effort basis as we transition the essential features to LLC supported
>> platforms. The plan is to finish the transition before IETF 111 and wind
>> down.
>> The process of moving these features has been ongoing for several years.
>> Most have already been moved, but a few important ones remain.
>> We have recently moved the style of presenting htmlized
>> text
>> documents into the Datatracker. The plan is to redirect those pages from
>> into the Datatracker soon.
>> We will be replacing the online xml2rfc and bibxml services with modern
>> rewrites of the existing services.
>> We are transitioning the svn/trac source repositories for the Datatracker
>> and xml2rfc to the IETF Secretariat, with a longer term goal of moving
>> them
>> to GitHub.
>> At the beginning of this meeting, we identified that the ability to add to
>> individual sessions (as opposed to all sessions of a group) to a
>> subscribable
>> calendar needs to be added to the Datatracker.
>> We will look again to identify any other features that need to be moved.
>> But as
>> you notice features at that are important but can't find
>> at the
>> Datatracker, please send a note either to me or to
>> .
>> Henrik and I communicate frequently, and he is supporting us with this
>> transition on a best effort basis, but is not getting as
>> much of
>> his time as we have become accustomed to in the past. Please be patient
>> with us
>> during the next few months.
>> As you identify issues with, please email Henrik or let
>> me know,
>> and I will bring them to Henrik's attention.  In general, neither the IETF
>> Secretariat nor the tools team can address issues at
>> directly.
>> Our focus will be on moving functionality to platforms like the
>> Datatracker.
>> I would like to express my gratitude for all of the support Henrik has
>> provided
>> to the community over the last couple of decades. Early on, long before we
>> started projects like the Datatracker, he set up several tools on his
>> own that
>> became very popular with the community. During this time, the domain
>> was delegated to him, and he used it to gather the volunteer created
>> tooling from
>> many contributors.
>> As the community grew, we began hosting more services at the IETF
>> Secretariat.
>> During Russ Housley's tenure as IETF Chair, the tools team, under the
>> IOAC's
>> direction, began moving essential services to IETF Secretariat-supported
>> platforms. Through donated and contracted time, Henrik has been helping
>> make
>> these transitions as an ongoing process. But continued to
>> be a
>> set of services that he maintained and improved primarily by himself or
>> through
>> coordinating other volunteer effort.
>> Of course, Henrik was also a principal architect and contributor for the
>> Datatracker and xml2rfc, and we are richer for all of his hard work over
>> decades on so many tools.
>> --
>> Robert Sparks
>> Tools Team chair