Re: [Tools-discuss] Show the queue and active speakers always

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Thu, 19 November 2020 03:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Show the queue and active speakers always
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Martin,

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 7:12 PM, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:
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> As a chair, monitoring the queue and the chat is basically impossible.  I've found that a great deal of relevant discussion occurs in chat, but constant switching is difficult to manage.

I guess I did the “impossible”.   The way I did this was to keep the chat in a separate window to the left of the main meetecho window.  That allowed me to see both at the same time.  As discussed earlier, having the chat open in a separate window by default would be helpful.

> Rather than layer these in a tabbed view, I would greatly prefer if the queue (and active speakers) were shown in a distinct area of the screen.  In the presentation view, that could be below the active video.  In the gallery view, that could be at the bottom.

I suspect there are a lot of different ways to do this, but agree that it’s important for a chair to see both the chat and queue at the same time.

Bob


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