Re: [Tools-discuss] Meetecho rooms being opened to chairs 10 minutes before sessions would be _really_ helpful

Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com> Wed, 29 July 2020 16:13 UTC

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From: Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 18:12:03 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Meetecho rooms being opened to chairs 10 minutes before sessions would be _really_ helpful
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yepp, it was generous enough, thanks


On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 6:11 PM info@meetecho.com <info@meetecho.com> wrote:

> Il 29/07/20 18:07, Greg Shepherd ha scritto:
> > The Meetecho session for the BIER meeting closed 5mins before the hour.
> > I could clearly see the Meetecho screen telling me the meeting was over.
>
> Correct. And it was supposed to end 20 minutes before the hour as per
> the schedule, so it went 15 minutes overtime like I said ;).
>
> A.
>
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:57 AM Meetecho IETF support <ietf@meetecho.com
> > <mailto:ietf@meetecho.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     The BIER meeting has been closed 15 minutes after the scheduled end
> >     time. You can clearly see that from the Jabber logs:
> >
> >     https://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/bier/2020-07-29.html
> >
> >     See my message at 12:55:45.
> >
> >     Alessandro
> >
> >     Il 29/07/20 17:18, Greg Mirsky ha scritto:
> >      > Hi Jay,
> >      > it could be. I was not taking notes at the moment.
> >      >
> >      > Regards,
> >      > Greg
> >      >
> >      > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:13 AM Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org
> >     <mailto:jay@ietf.org>
> >      > <mailto:jay@ietf.org <mailto:jay@ietf.org>>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >>     On 30/07/2020, at 3:09 AM, Greg Mirsky
> >     <gregimirsky@gmail.com <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com>
> >      >>     <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >      >>
> >      >>     On the first day of IETF-108 Meetcho closed the SPRING WG
> >     meeting
> >      >>     on the clock. It was announced that five minutes grace
> >     period will
> >      >>     be added. BIER meeting, to the best of my knowledge, was
> closed
> >      >>     not at +5 but -5 minutes. Unannounced change of policy?
> >      >
> >      >     Greg - are you sure it wasn’t five minutes before the top of
> the
> >      >     hour, which is five minutes after the meeting is scheduled to
> >     finish?
> >      >
> >      >     Jay
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >>
> >      >>     Regards,
> >      >>     Greg
> >      >>
> >      >>     On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:03 AM Toerless Eckert
> >     <tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>
> >      >>     <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>>> wrote:
> >      >>
> >      >>         On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:56:02AM -0400, Ted Lemon
> wrote:
> >      >>         > On Jul 29, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Toerless Eckert
> >     <tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>
> >      >>         <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>>> wrote:
> >      >>         > > How is it possible that in a physcial meeting we are
> >     able
> >      >>         to utilize all possible
> >      >>         > > before andd after meeting times, and now going
> virtual
> >      >>         where we should have
> >      >>         > > FEWER time constraints, we enforce MORE ?
> >      >>         >
> >      >>         > Poor chair discipline does sometimes result in chairs
> >     trying
> >      >>         to run their meetings into the break. This is a failure
> >     on the
> >      >>         part of the chairs, not a feature.
> >      >>
> >      >>         Sure, but are we trying to virtualize our common
> >     experiences,
> >      >>         requirements or
> >      >>         trying to create a more strict regime ?
> >      >>
> >      >>         I see far fewer reasons for strict meetecho session
> limits
> >      >>         than there are fo physical rooms.
> >      >>
> >      >>         Sorry, but this makes totally no sense to me.
> >      >>
> >      >>         Cheers
> >      >>             toerless
> >      >>
> >      >>
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