Re: [Tools-discuss] another case of links not updating

Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Wed, 06 May 2020 15:37 UTC

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Hi Paul,

On 2020-05-06 16:27, Paul Wouters wrote:
> 
> I see another case of links in older drafts not updating that there is a
> newer draft.
> 
> See https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pwouters-powerbind-03
> 
> There is a -04 version but it is not indicating this.
> 
> The -04 is also not listed in the 00 to 03 version.
> 
> It's not a "timing" thing either as the -04 was submitted on April 30.

Right.  It's a matter of a cache invalidation trigger sometimes failing.

> This issue has been present for years and I reported back on this many
> times. Perhaps the tools team can share where this code lives, so that
> others including me can have a look at it.

The metadata handling and cache invalidation on tools.ietf.org resides in
old bash scripts that have not gotten a lot of attention lately, to a
large extent because my time has been dedicated to datatracker and xml2rfc
work the last few years.  With the importance of getting the xml2rfc schema
v3 launced and the effort of moving other tools to the datatracker, the
maintenance of the tools.ietf.org site has fallen behind.

It's work I want to do, but the hours I have are limited.  I've fixed the
immediate issue, and will try to find time to debug the root cause.


Regards,

	Henrik