[Tools-discuss] Re: Reminder re: mailman3 list owner/moderator roles

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Thu, 16 May 2024 17:27 UTC

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Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 10:27:15 -0700
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Makes it easy to get to the lists where I am the owner.


> On May 16, 2024, at 6:51 AM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> Yes - we have asked for this change.
> The pattern to remember, in a pinch, in the meantime is mailman3.ietf.org/mailman3/lists/acronym@ietf.org <mailto:mailman3.ietf.org/mailman3/lists/acronym@ietf.org>
> If the moderator message fix isn't going to come soon, we'll build another helper.
> RjS
> On 5/16/24 8:47 AM, Brian Rosen wrote:
>> Could we get a link to the list page on the moderation emails or, even better, the specific moderation request?  I have had to do too much fumbling to respond to the moderation requests because there is no link that even gets close.  I basically either have to remember the pattern (hopeless), or just find it from the working group page in datatracker.
>> I personally think the footer for mail from the list should have the list page link rather than a mailto, because the list address is in “To:”.
>> Brian 
>>> On May 12, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> <mailto:tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Robert
>>> On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 10:56 PM Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com <mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com>> wrote:
>>>> On 5/11/24 5:39 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote:
>>>>> Robert/ToolsTeam/etc
>>>>> Thanks for doing this - I know it was not easy. 
>>>>> Are the issues still being tracked here https://github.com/ietf-tools/mailarchive/issues ?
>>>> For the mailarchive.ietf.org <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/> application itself, yes.
>>>>> I filed a RFE that for lists we are members or just owners of there is a 'last message' column with a timestamp.
>>>> We'll figure out where to move that - it _could_ be a request for the postorious developers (at mailman3) or it could be factored into the upcoming integration of the datatracker and mailman3 (see the mockups athttps://www.ietf.org/media/documents/Mail_Subscription_Mockup_2021-10-12.pdf).
>>> Thanks and I definitely flagged it as an RFE.  And thanks for that mock up - I know this is explaining all the options but it's a bit intense. 
>>>>> Or maybe that's an AD tool to help them shut down super old mailing lists?3
>>>> The IESG has already started an effort to clarify what's no longer active, and there are a lot that really should be marked more clearly archival. One of the interesting corners in that effort is understanding that a few lists that are very latent have not necessarily concluded their purpose.
>>> I think it was a combination of looking at all the lists I am subscribed to + watching the Int ADs starting the thankless task of shutting down old lists (our tech debt). 
>>> tim
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