Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools
John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Sun, 27 June 2021 19:48 UTC
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From: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2021, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > But what would be really cool would be something similar to > what we had with nroffedit - you just type what needs to be written, and > the tool makes it look nice in real time. and then generates what's needed > to be submitted to the process in the syntax of the day. You and me both. There's a variety of ways we might do that. There are commercial XML editors like that, you edit a roughly formatted version of the document and it writes out the XML. They're unlikely to be useful to us for several reasons. One is that our XML turns out to be quite unlike everyone else's XML so people who've tried the editors say they don't work well with our grammar. Also, they're expensive, and I doubt many ietfers would want to install and learn the quirks of yet another editor. Another possibility is some MS Word stylesheets and macros and a converter between docx and xml2rfc. A lot of people like Word, and I think it would not be too hard to come up with a set of styles that could be reliably converted to xml2rfc. I realize a lot of people don't like Word, but at least it's not a new program to learn. There are a lot of markdown editors, some of which are browser apps, some of which are separate programs. I haven't looked to see if any of them might be suitable to adapt. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… John R Levine
- [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.txt] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… John Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… John R Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to authors Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to autho… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to autho… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to autho… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools John R Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools John Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to autho… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to autho… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… John R Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… John Scudder
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann