Re: [Tools-discuss] Meetecho rooms being opened to chairs 10 minutes before sessions would be _really_ helpful

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Meetecho rooms being opened to chairs 10 minutes before sessions would be _really_ helpful
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Il 29/07/20 18:07, Greg Shepherd ha scritto:
> The Meetecho session for the BIER meeting closed 5mins before the hour. 
> I could clearly see the Meetecho screen telling me the meeting was over.

Correct. And it was supposed to end 20 minutes before the hour as per 
the schedule, so it went 15 minutes overtime like I said ;).

A.

> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:57 AM Meetecho IETF support <ietf@meetecho.com 
> <mailto:ietf@meetecho.com>> wrote:
> 
>     The BIER meeting has been closed 15 minutes after the scheduled end
>     time. You can clearly see that from the Jabber logs:
> 
>     https://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/bier/2020-07-29.html
> 
>     See my message at 12:55:45.
> 
>     Alessandro
> 
>     Il 29/07/20 17:18, Greg Mirsky ha scritto:
>      > Hi Jay,
>      > it could be. I was not taking notes at the moment.
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      > Greg
>      >
>      > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:13 AM Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org
>     <mailto:jay@ietf.org>
>      > <mailto:jay@ietf.org <mailto:jay@ietf.org>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >>     On 30/07/2020, at 3:09 AM, Greg Mirsky
>     <gregimirsky@gmail.com <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com>
>      >>     <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com
>     <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>      >>
>      >>     On the first day of IETF-108 Meetcho closed the SPRING WG
>     meeting
>      >>     on the clock. It was announced that five minutes grace
>     period will
>      >>     be added. BIER meeting, to the best of my knowledge, was closed
>      >>     not at +5 but -5 minutes. Unannounced change of policy?
>      >
>      >     Greg - are you sure it wasn’t five minutes before the top of the
>      >     hour, which is five minutes after the meeting is scheduled to
>     finish?
>      >
>      >     Jay
>      >
>      >
>      >>
>      >>     Regards,
>      >>     Greg
>      >>
>      >>     On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:03 AM Toerless Eckert
>     <tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>
>      >>     <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>>> wrote:
>      >>
>      >>         On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:56:02AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:
>      >>         > On Jul 29, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Toerless Eckert
>     <tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>
>      >>         <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>>> wrote:
>      >>         > > How is it possible that in a physcial meeting we are
>     able
>      >>         to utilize all possible
>      >>         > > before andd after meeting times, and now going virtual
>      >>         where we should have
>      >>         > > FEWER time constraints, we enforce MORE ?
>      >>         >
>      >>         > Poor chair discipline does sometimes result in chairs
>     trying
>      >>         to run their meetings into the break. This is a failure
>     on the
>      >>         part of the chairs, not a feature.
>      >>
>      >>         Sure, but are we trying to virtualize our common
>     experiences,
>      >>         requirements or
>      >>         trying to create a more strict regime ?
>      >>
>      >>         I see far fewer reasons for strict meetecho session limits
>      >>         than there are fo physical rooms.
>      >>
>      >>         Sorry, but this makes totally no sense to me.
>      >>
>      >>         Cheers
>      >>             toerless
>      >>
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