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Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Mon, 08 July 2024 21:29 UTC

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On 7/8/24 1:34 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On 8. Jul 2024, at 20:27, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
>> The agenda and the beginnings of notes for the meeting is available at https://notes.ietf.org/tools-team-20240709. Details will continue to be added up to and during the meeting.
> This discusses expensive resources (“endpoints”) for building PDF forms of documents.
>
> Could we maybe stop pdfizing things in weird ways and simply build the correct PDF form on I-D submission?
> The current state is just such a waste of time.

This glosses over a lot, so lets dig a little:

- by "correct PDF form" I assume you mean what xml2rfc would produce 
given xml input. What about drafts that are still being submitted as 
text only - do we stop providing any pdf form of those? What about 
drafts and RFCs from more than 5 years ago?

- The expensive part is running the pdf creating software (currently 
weasyprint) and moving that expense to draft posting time vs the first 
time someone accesses the pdf document just moves the expense around. It 
might even make the total expense higher if no-one every asks for the 
pdf of a particular version of a draft.

- One sharp edge is running the pdf creating software over provided svg 
(even with our badly constructed restrictions on the SVG). We know of 
extant submissions that cause the pdf generation call to fail to return.

>
> Grüße, Carsten
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