Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 01 August 2021 20:44 UTC

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To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, tools-discuss@ietf.org, emo-dir@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site
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Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
    > Who keeps an eye on the tools material on the IETF web site?

AMSL can do updates, and emails to support@ietf.org work well for this.

    > While trying to assist a possible new contributor, I fell upon:
    > https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tutorials/process/creating-internet-drafts-and-rfcs/
    > which looks badly in need of a refresh to me. For example, it misses the excellent tutorial at:
    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-edu-sessf-how-to-create-an-internet-draft-using-xml-or-markdown-markdown-01

    > We can have the best tools in the world, but they are no good to
    > newcomers unless the main IETF web site is actively maintained.

I'd put the ietf.org contents on a gitlab and take pull requests.

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