Re: [Tools-discuss] Meetecho rooms being opened to chairs 10 minutes before sessions would be _really_ helpful

Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> Wed, 29 July 2020 19:05 UTC

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From: Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 12:05:40 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Meetecho rooms being opened to chairs 10 minutes before sessions would be _really_ helpful
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Well, years of in-person meetings, where 5min before the hour we are all
ejected, wholesale, scattered throughout the reception area to scrounge for
cookies, has certainly sharpened my timing skills to a tee. :)

That said, the meetecho performance was excellent and the ui was easy to
learn. Thanks!

- Shep

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:12 AM Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> yepp, it was generous enough, thanks
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 6:11 PM info@meetecho.com <info@meetecho.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Il 29/07/20 18:07, Greg Shepherd ha scritto:
>> > The Meetecho session for the BIER meeting closed 5mins before the hour.
>> > I could clearly see the Meetecho screen telling me the meeting was over.
>>
>> Correct. And it was supposed to end 20 minutes before the hour as per
>> the schedule, so it went 15 minutes overtime like I said ;).
>>
>> A.
>>
>> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:57 AM Meetecho IETF support <
>> ietf@meetecho.com
>> > <mailto:ietf@meetecho.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     The BIER meeting has been closed 15 minutes after the scheduled end
>> >     time. You can clearly see that from the Jabber logs:
>> >
>> >     https://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/bier/2020-07-29.html
>> >
>> >     See my message at 12:55:45.
>> >
>> >     Alessandro
>> >
>> >     Il 29/07/20 17:18, Greg Mirsky ha scritto:
>> >      > Hi Jay,
>> >      > it could be. I was not taking notes at the moment.
>> >      >
>> >      > Regards,
>> >      > Greg
>> >      >
>> >      > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:13 AM Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org
>> >     <mailto:jay@ietf.org>
>> >      > <mailto:jay@ietf.org <mailto:jay@ietf.org>>> wrote:
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      >>     On 30/07/2020, at 3:09 AM, Greg Mirsky
>> >     <gregimirsky@gmail.com <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com>
>> >      >>     <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com
>> >     <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >      >>
>> >      >>     On the first day of IETF-108 Meetcho closed the SPRING WG
>> >     meeting
>> >      >>     on the clock. It was announced that five minutes grace
>> >     period will
>> >      >>     be added. BIER meeting, to the best of my knowledge, was
>> closed
>> >      >>     not at +5 but -5 minutes. Unannounced change of policy?
>> >      >
>> >      >     Greg - are you sure it wasn’t five minutes before the top of
>> the
>> >      >     hour, which is five minutes after the meeting is scheduled to
>> >     finish?
>> >      >
>> >      >     Jay
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      >>
>> >      >>     Regards,
>> >      >>     Greg
>> >      >>
>> >      >>     On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:03 AM Toerless Eckert
>> >     <tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>
>> >      >>     <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>>> wrote:
>> >      >>
>> >      >>         On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 10:56:02AM -0400, Ted Lemon
>> wrote:
>> >      >>         > On Jul 29, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Toerless Eckert
>> >     <tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>
>> >      >>         <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>>> wrote:
>> >      >>         > > How is it possible that in a physcial meeting we are
>> >     able
>> >      >>         to utilize all possible
>> >      >>         > > before andd after meeting times, and now going
>> virtual
>> >      >>         where we should have
>> >      >>         > > FEWER time constraints, we enforce MORE ?
>> >      >>         >
>> >      >>         > Poor chair discipline does sometimes result in chairs
>> >     trying
>> >      >>         to run their meetings into the break. This is a failure
>> >     on the
>> >      >>         part of the chairs, not a feature.
>> >      >>
>> >      >>         Sure, but are we trying to virtualize our common
>> >     experiences,
>> >      >>         requirements or
>> >      >>         trying to create a more strict regime ?
>> >      >>
>> >      >>         I see far fewer reasons for strict meetecho session
>> limits
>> >      >>         than there are fo physical rooms.
>> >      >>
>> >      >>         Sorry, but this makes totally no sense to me.
>> >      >>
>> >      >>         Cheers
>> >      >>             toerless
>> >      >>
>> >      >>
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