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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2025 11:35:26 +1300
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On Sun, 28 Sept 2025 at 04:56, Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Attached is what I see. Top to bottom:
>
> Firefox
> Safari
> Chrome
>
>
> I don't see a lot of typographic boldness in Chrome, but the other two
> are ok.
>
>
Jean Mahoney opened an issue with Chromium about this behaviour and seems
to have traction on their side.
https://issues.chromium.org/issues/447361040

  --Kesara


> It's been like this for days now, so I don't think it is caching issue.
>
> The list has a limit of 100kb, which I do no like. But here you are:
>
> thanks,
> Rob
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 8:02=E2=80=AFPM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was thinking about this one on the drive home. I also recall that the
>> font rendering libraries vary in their willingness to do pseudo bold and
>> italic characters. It's been a long time since I worked in that area, bu=
t
>> it seems like that one gets uggo bold fonts in Safari and Firefox. There=
 is
>> a flawed approach to this, and it is sometimes used in the absence of
>> separate weights.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 10:25=E2=80=AFAM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>>
>>> On 9/22/25 1:07 AM, Martin Thomson wrote:
>>> > I'm not seeing a problem here.  But that is not because there is no
>>> problem.
>>> >
>>> It is browser-dependent to my eye. It is easy to see in Safari and
>>> Firefox, but not in Chrome.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Rob
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote g=
mail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, 28 Sept=
 2025 at 04:56, Rob Sayre &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sayrer@gmail.com">sayrer@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<br><br>Attached is what I see. Top to bottom:<b=
r><br>Firefox<br>Safari<br>Chrome<br><br><br>I don&#39;t see a lot of typog=
raphic boldness in Chrome, but the other two<br>are ok.<br><br></div></bloc=
kquote><div><br></div><div>Jean Mahoney opened an issue with Chromium=C2=A0=
about this behaviour and seems to have traction on their side.</div><div><a=
 href=3D"https://issues.chromium.org/issues/447361040">https://issues.chrom=
ium.org/issues/447361040</a></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 --Kesara</div>=
<div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">It&#39;s been like this for days now, so I don&#39;t think it is c=
aching issue.<div><br></div><div>The list has a limit of 100kb, which I do =
no like. But here you are:<br><br>thanks,<br>Rob</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 22, 2025=
 at 8:02=E2=80=AFPM Rob Sayre &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sayrer@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">sayrer@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I was =
thinking about this one on the drive home. I also recall that the font rend=
ering libraries vary in their willingness to do pseudo bold and italic char=
acters. It&#39;s been a long time since I worked in that area, but it seems=
 like that one gets uggo bold fonts in Safari and Firefox. There is a flawe=
d approach to this, and it is sometimes used=C2=A0in the absence of separat=
e weights.</div><div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><div>Rob</div><div><br></d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 10:25=E2=80=AFAM Rob Sayre &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:sayrer@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sayrer@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 9/22/25 1:07 AM, Ma=
rtin Thomson wrote:<br>
&gt; I&#39;m not seeing a problem here.=C2=A0 But that is not because there=
 is no problem.<br>
&gt; <br>
It is browser-dependent to my eye. It is easy to see in Safari and <br>
Firefox, but not in Chrome.<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
Rob<br>
<br>
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