Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools resources that we use: bap
Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Fri, 05 March 2021 15:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools resources that we use: bap
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Am 05.03.2021 um 16:18 schrieb Paul Kyzivat: > On 3/5/21 9:36 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> Please drop notes to the tools-discuss list or directly to me as you >> think of things. I'd like for you to catch them as you see you need them. > >> On 3/5/21 2:51 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>> On 2021-03-05, at 09:39, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> To whom do we send a list of the tools resources that we use? >>> We could start a discussion thread on tools-discuss. > > I use bap from time to time. Unfortunately AFAIK it is barely > maintained. After I finished RFC7405 I asked Bill Fenner about > incorporating support for it in bap. He was very hard to reach. I then > implemented the necessary updates to bap and submitted a pull request. > But it was never acted upon. I eventually just gave up. The http-core editors have their own fork (which does 7405, but also handles the HTTP #list production). See <https://github.com/httpwg/http-core/tree/master/bap>. > I'd really like to have better support for ABNF in the draft pipeline. > Ideally ABNF checking would be an automatic part of the process. > Unfortunately it is hard to do well. Much ABNF in drafts/RFCs has > dependencies on ABNF in some other document, and those dependencies are > stated informally so that it takes manual processing to prepare > something that can be fully checked by bap. If/how to resolve this needs > discussion and then probably some implementation work. In HTTP (core), we declare all ABNF productions that we import as prose, for instance, see <https://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-httpbis-semantics-14.html#uri.references>. With that, the ABNF at least is self-contained and can be checked automatically (and we do that in our build process). Best regards, Julian
- [Tools-discuss] Tools resources that we use: bap Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools resources that we use: … Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools resources that we use: … Russ Housley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Tools resources that we use: … Paul Kyzivat