Re: [Tools-discuss] [110attendees] Chat services during IETF 110

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Tue, 09 March 2021 10:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [110attendees] Chat services during IETF 110
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On 3/9/21 2:00 AM, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> Ho to attach photo to datatracker profile?
>
Send an email to iesg-secretary@ietf.org
>
> What particular site in the Internet should I visit to search for 
> settings/general? Better to have URL.
>
The question below was about the matrix trial we are running at 
matrix-trial1.ietf.org
>
> I did assume that it should be the same site (datatracker.ietf.org), 
> but it looks like not the case.
>
> I have not found this widget on datatracker.ietf.org. There is no 
> anything at “upper right”.
>
> Documentation
>
That's the documentation for Meetecho.
>
> still claims that “your profile picture is taken from your IETF 
> Datatracker profile, if available. If no picture is available in the 
> IETF Datatracker, then a picture is taken from the Gravatar service” 
> https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF110-Meetecho-Documentation.pdf 
> <https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF110-Meetecho-Documentation.pdf>
>
> May be I am asking wrong person, then I would open IT case.
>
> Eduard
>
> *From:*110attendees [mailto:110attendees-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf 
> Of *Robert Sparks
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 2:34 AM
> *To:* sarikaya@ieee.org; Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 110attendees@ietf.org; Matthew Hodgson <matthew@element.io>io>; 
> tools-discuss <tools-discuss@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [110attendees] Chat services during IETF 110
>
> Hi Behcet -
>
> Sorry for my delay - If you go to settings/general, in the upper right 
> there's an upload widget that will accept photos. You have to hit 
> "Save" under your display name after uploading it for it to take.
>
> RjS
>
> On 3/8/21 5:10 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>
>     No my friend Andy, it was for Matrix.
>
>     I think I am gonna skip using Matrix and switch back to Adium.
>
>     Behcet
>
>     On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 10:42 AM Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com
>     <mailto:agmalis@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Behcet,
>
>         If you mean your photo for Meetecho, here is the info from the
>         meetecho documentation for IETF 108 (I didn't see this in the
>         IETF 110 documentation, but I'm sure it's still the same):
>
>         Name and role
>
>         Your name and role in the session (e.g. Participant or Chair)
>         will appear in the upper left hand corner of the Meetecho
>         window. Note that your profile picture is taken from the
>         Gravatar (https://en.gravatar.com <https://en.gravatar.com>)
>         service based on the email used during the login process (if
>         available) and not images from the IETF Datatracker.
>
>         Cheers,
>
>         Andy
>
>         On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 10:15 AM Behcet Sarikaya
>         <sarikaya2012@gmail.com <mailto:sarikaya2012@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             One more question/issue: How do I put my photo?
>
>             On the settings menu, it seems to be possible to upload a
>             picture but I could not make it work, upload and remove
>             choices come up, I upload my picture and then what? If I
>             press the upload button again, it goes back to my local
>             disk. The other choice is remove. If I return, no picture
>             is inserted.
>
>             Behcet
>
>             On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 1:11 PM Robert Sparks
>             <rjsparks@nostrum.com <mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com>> wrote:
>
>                 It's been a little while since I started a Matrix
>                 account. I don't remember _uploading_ the recovery key
>                 on first access, but I do remember it getting created
>                 and me downloading it. But I may just not remember.
>
>                 Matthew - can you point Behcet at something that might
>                 help?
>
>                 RjS
>
>                 On 3/3/21 11:35 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>
>                     Hi Robert,
>
>                     Thank you for this information. I made an account
>                     on matrix and used it a bit. It seems to work fine :)
>
>                     About the recovery key: I don't understand why at
>                     very login I have to upload it?
>
>                     Behcet
>
>                     On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:03 PM Robert Sparks
>                     <rjsparks@nostrum.com
>                     <mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com>> wrote:
>
>                         Please be aware of the ongoing chat services
>                         trials during IETF 110.
>
>                         There are instances of matrix and zulip running at
>
>                         https://matrix-trial1.ietf.org
>                         <https://matrix-trial1.ietf.org> and
>                         https://zulip-trial1.ietf.org
>                         <https://zulip-trial1.ietf.org>,
>                         respectively.
>
>                         They are bridged into xmpp.
>
>                         There is also a web interface into the xmpp
>                         chatrooms at
>                         https://xmpp-trial1.ietf.org
>                         <https://xmpp-trial1.ietf.org>. This service
>                         also allows the creation of
>                         accounts, and can be used with any xmpp client.
>
>                         Each Meetecho session provides its own view
>                         into the xmpp chatroom
>                         associated with the group's meeting. That chat
>                         can be participated in
>                         through any of the three services.
>
>                         For more information see:
>
>                         https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/UtPuWgXhYbjyf7wHGJh4ax4kQrA/
>                         <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/UtPuWgXhYbjyf7wHGJh4ax4kQrA/>
>
>                         https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/B1b71fKWGfAq0ZKJ0KSwxzn7WgI/
>                         <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/B1b71fKWGfAq0ZKJ0KSwxzn7WgI/>
>
>                         Discussion of the effectiveness of these
>                         services is encouraged. We are
>                         particularly interested in hearing about the
>                         following:
>
>                         * Is providing local jabber accounts and a web
>                         interface to jabber
>                         sufficient to address the access issues
>                         encountered in the past?
>
>                         * Are there features that matrix or zulip
>                         provide that are truly helpful
>                         for progressing IETF work? If so, please
>                         describe how they are helping.
>
>                         Discussion should take place at
>                         tools-discuss@ietf.org
>                         <mailto:tools-discuss@ietf.org>, but we will also
>                         be watching #trial1-feedback on both zulip and
>                         matrix.
>
>                         Robert Sparks - Tools Team Chair
>
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