Re: [Tools-discuss] Google Scholar not indexing Internet-Drafts

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Thu, 29 July 2021 16:41 UTC

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 12:41:02 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Google Scholar not indexing Internet-Drafts
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On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:52 PM John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> It appears that Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> said:
> >Hi,
> >
> >We had this discussion already on ietf@ (
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/I0BIw22bhd99buZz9lE-kFcrFGI/),
> but the problem is
> >still there.
> >
> >Anything from arXiv is indexed, so I do not see why Internet-Drafts could
> not get the same treatment.  It in fact put IETFers at a disadvantage.
>
> They're not even indexing RFCs, other than some old ones where it finds
> copies that the ACM has.  Yow.
>

Citation needed.

Searching for bits from the abstract of a random selection of recently
published documents gives:
https://www.google.com/search?q=This+document+defines+a+BGP+path+attribute+known+as+the+%22Tunnel+Encapsulation+attribute%22

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22This+document+describes+a+new+Uniform+Resource+Name+%28URN%29+namespace%22

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22This+document+defines+a+process+experiment+under+RFC+3933%22


In an incognito window, the RFC Editor result was the first, second or
third result for all of these...

W



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> R's,
> John
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