Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits 2.16.02 counts line length using bytes and not characters (but xml2rfc 2.34.0 line-wraps counting chars, not bytes)

Henrik Levkowetz <> Tue, 05 November 2019 16:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] idnits 2.16.02 counts line length using bytes and not characters (but xml2rfc 2.34.0 line-wraps counting chars, not bytes)
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Hi Daniel,

On 2019-11-05 13:34, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On Mon 2019-11-04 22:07:00 +0100, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>> Agreed.  A rewrite of idnits which will do better in this respect is
>> in progress.
> great, thanks!
> By the way, the incluson of UTF-8 characters has been really helpful for
> this specific draft, as it permits pretty diagrams of MIME structure
> that would be tedious to explain in text, or harder to follow visually
> if we left out edges between parent and child nodes.
> I really appreciate the work that goes into modernizing the IETF toolchain
> to permit these improvements.
> My only regret is that the htmlizer on seems to work from
> the uploaded .txt variant, rather than building the html directly from
> the .xml source.  "xml2rfc --html --v3" produces a document that is
> *much* nicer to read (and better structured from an HTML point of view)
> than the htmlized txt source.
> Is there any plan to generate the HTML from the uploaded xml in this way
> for future documents?

If you submit v3 XML, HTML is already being generated from the XML.

Right at the moment, it looks like the net (or wider area?) that lives on is unreachable (I see this for multiple
machines in the same geographic area) but when it's reachable again,
you should see a link to the generated html on the datatracker page
for the document, and you should also find it next to the .txt and
.xml files in the repository:

Best regards,