Re: [Tools-discuss] Serving a partial documents (was Re: [rfc-i] Citing drafts)

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 26 February 2021 19:40 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
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I agree it makes sense to serve the full document now, but I also think having a link for just the ‘document status’ would be useful.  I don’t care how fast your link is, you don’t want to keep refreshing some honkin’ long draft just to see if the SECDIR person finished their review, especially if it’s your draft.

From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Friday, February 26, 2021 at 1:05 PM
To: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
Cc: Rich Salz <rsalz@akamai.com>om>, tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com>om>, tools-discuss <tools-discuss@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Serving a partial documents (was Re: [rfc-i] Citing drafts)



On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:03 AM Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com<mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com>> wrote:
So, I _think_ the way the main document page behaves now was intended to
protect people on low bandwidth or expensive bandwidth connections from
very large documents.

Is that still something we should consider important? Or would it be
better if the main page served the whole document all the time?

I think that's largely unnecessary at this time, especially given that a lot of people currently go to tools which serves the whole thing

-Ekr


RjS

On 2/26/21 11:46 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:
> Moved from rfc-interest (BCC) to tools-discuss.
>
>>     My pet hate is that I have to scroll to the bottom before I can tell the
>      system that I want the lot.
>
> (Are hates what peeves become when fully grown? :)
>
> One the one hand, I get it.  I find it annoying too.  On the other hand, you're presumably already down at the bottom of the page at the time you see it. On the third hand, it's annoying to have to tweak the link if you already started sharing it. On the fourth hand, it could be an easy change.
>
> When would you want to get the full document?  When you click on a document from the WG page?  (e.g., https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/acme/documents/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/wg/acme/documents/__;!!GjvTz_vk!AhV4Mz4gH8GRqZgNs7WT5KGI8bDZvJMGwkMcVbnqIooDl7GQlpoHEyxKlo-1$> )
>
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