Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Sun, 27 June 2021 20:09 UTC

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Am 27.06.2021 um 21:48 schrieb John R Levine:
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2021, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
>> But what would be really cool would be something similar to
>> what we had with nroffedit - you just type what needs to be written, and
>> the tool makes it look nice in real time. and then generates what's
>> needed
>> to be submitted to the process in the syntax of the day.
>
> You and me both.  There's a variety of ways we might do that.
>
> There are commercial XML editors like that, you edit a roughly formatted
> version of the document and it writes out the XML.  They're unlikely to
> be useful to us for several reasons.  One is that our XML turns out to
> be quite unlike everyone else's XML so people who've tried the editors
> say they don't work well with our grammar.  Also, they're expensive, and
> I doubt many ietfers would want to install and learn the quirks of yet
> another editor.
>
> Another possibility is some MS Word stylesheets and macros and a
> converter between docx and xml2rfc.  A lot of people like Word, and I
> think it would not be too hard to come up with a set of styles that
> could be reliably converted to xml2rfc.  I realize a lot of people don't
> like Word, but at least it's not a new program to learn.
>
> There are a lot of markdown editors, some of which are browser apps,
> some of which are separate programs. I haven't looked to see if any of
> them might be suitable to adapt.
> ...

Or you could run a text-editor and web browser side-by-side and use
rfc2629.xslt's "live HTML refresh" feature (see
<https://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc2629xslt/rfc2629xslt.html#html.live.refresh>).

Best regards, Julian