Re: [Tools-discuss] disappearing IDs on www.ietf.org

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Thu, 10 September 2020 18:16 UTC

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Note that the current draft also appears in the archive.

The two different pools come from the notions of having an 
ID-repository, where expired drafts go away, and an ID-archive.

Active IDs are added to the repository and the archive at the same time.

When a draft is expired, revised, or replaced, it is removed from the 
repository of active IDs.

RjS

On 9/10/20 12:50 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>
>> On 2020-09-10, at 17:41, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Signed PGP part
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> On 2020-09-10 17:32, Michael Richardson wrote:
>>> I had given a link to a document:
>>> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud-04.html
>>>
>>> I thought I was smart and modern to give them the HTML rendered link.
>>> But, two hours later, I found a few stupid typos and posted -05.
>>> The -04 content above went away.  This is a surprising change from how
>>> tools.ietf.org copy behaves.
>> The URL path that behaves the same way as tools.ietf.org/id/ is this:
>>
>>   https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/
> Right.  A reference to https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud-04.html currently only gives a generic 404 page.
> What it maybe should do is a display a switch page that provides a brief explanation about expiry and replacement of I-Ds and then offers links to
>
> — the archive page https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud-04.html
> — the current page https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud-05.html (or the RFC), if any
>
> Also, we should design most places that give out the https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud-04.html link to instead give out a timeless link like https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud.html (which currently doesn’t work).
>
> Cool URIs don’t change: https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>
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