Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.txt]
Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Wed, 30 June 2021 05:37 UTC
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From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
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Am 29.06.2021 um 23:41 schrieb Toerless Eckert: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 08:08:48AM +0200, Julian Reschke wrote: >> Am 29.06.2021 um 01:47 schrieb Toerless Eckert: >>> ... >>>> I've had no trouble at all editing XML in v3. >>> >>> Some tags got more convoluted. And figuring out how to put RFC references into v3 was also more convoluted han in v2. >> >> a) Which? > > I forgot the details and it would take me effort to put that together, > and right now i do not have the trust that spending that effort would > achieve anything in getting the tool improved. > > So, for now i have submitted a ticket for what i consider from my own experience to > be the worst problem, and if that actually does get fixed, i will go back and look > into reporting the other issues. > > https://trac.ietf.org/trac/xml2rfc/ticket/650 Please see the xml2rfc --help: V2-V3 Converter Options: --add-xinclude replace reference elements with RFC and Internet-Draft seriesInfo with the appropriate XInclude element --draft-revisions, --draft-revs Reference explicit draft revisions when inserting XIncludes for draft references --strict be strict about stripping some deprecated attributes >> b) It's just a slightly different syntax (a standard one instead of a >> what actually was a hack). > > > v2 was already a fairly bad markup for human editing, even if many > of us seem to suffer from Stockholm syndrom and claim to like it. > > When we make v3 even harder to edit by humans because it needs to > be better for machine processing, then we should really talk about > a standard tools-team supported text-edit format like kramdown. "...because if needs to be better for machine processing..." - who said that? There are places where there are currently discussions to remove authoring features in favor of easier processing, and it would be nice if I wasn't the only one arguing for being author-friendly (in this case: content model for lists). > ... Best regards, Julian
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… John R Levine
- [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.txt] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… John Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… John R Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to authors Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to autho… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to autho… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to autho… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools John R Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools John Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's have better tools Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to autho… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Let's not be hostile to autho… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… John R Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… John Scudder
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] .txt? [I-D Action: draft-xxx.… Carsten Bormann