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Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com> Mon, 29 July 2024 15:36 UTC

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On 7/29/2024 8:26 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> It would be *nice* if we could find an approach that works for at 
> least the languages most commonly embedded in RFCs. That seems 
> challenging given the variety of language syntax/semantics. Embedding 
> some parts in comments is interesting, but of course the comment 
> syntax varies. 

The variance among languages seems another good reason to not have it be 
part of any language, but instead an 'exterior' packaging/importing 
mechanism.  (Echo MIME.  hint. hint.)

d/

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