Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix and zulip

Matthew Hodgson <> Thu, 01 October 2020 23:43 UTC

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On Oct 1, 2020, at 10:33, Robert Sparks <> wrote:

> This does add to the potentially confusing large number of places conversation
> might take place. We hope to address that with some level of bridging, at least
> with Jabber, but have been cautioned by the respective development communities
> that bridging between Zulip and Matrix is unsatisfying since the conversation
> models in the two applications are so different.

It's true that Zulip<->Matrix bridging is unsatisfactory currently.  
Matrix actually has Zulip-style threading already under the hood 
but Element and other clients haven't yet implemented UI for it. This 
should change in future however.

> We are not, at this time, planning to host jabber accounts. We may revisit that
> as an option as we continue to gather more feedback.

On the other hand, XMPP<->Matrix bridging (and IRC<->Matrix bridging) is 
pretty good, and we maintain and run public bridges for both - which 
could provide continuity for those using Jabber.


Matthew Hodgson