Re: [Tools-discuss] Include mail archive permalinks in mailing list messages

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Wed, 26 June 2013 17:48 UTC

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>> Why doesn't each message carry its own permalink at the time I get it?
> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6778 actually calls for that.

Ah, I missed that.

> All that is
> needed would be a Message-Id => archive-address database and a script
> that adds something like `Archived-At: http://mid.ietf.org/...` to out-
> going mails.

That would indeed generate a permalink, however, it would be preferable for the permalink to be in the context of the mailing list archive:

E.g., 

http://mid.ietf.org/ip7ms896qb6t2qpvr33phdrh45ap70sb5a@hive.bjoern.hoehrmann.de

would provide less context than

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss/current/msg03401.html

(the last one actually is faintly recognizable; now if that permalink were a bit more sensibly constructed, as in http://mail.ietf.org/tools-discuss/03401.html...).

It would also be nice if the permalink were in the footer, where it is more accessible from lesser e-mail environments.

Interestingly, the record at https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss/current/msg03401.html has the referenced message-id (e.g., <1BFB4A37-5930-410D-A1D6-C1DD509F4DA5 at tzi.org>), but not the message-id itself...

> (One frustrating issue though is that the archive system is
> currently too slow, you have to wait several minutes for mails to appear
> in the archive, so the Archived-At links might not actually work when
> you point others to them; that should also be fixed...)

Yes, indeed, but that is a second priority for me.

Grüße, Carsten