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[Tools-discuss] Re: Non-delivery of complaint

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Thu, 12 September 2024 15:36 UTC

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On 9/12/24 1:43 AM, S Moonesamy wrote:
> Hello,
> At 10:16 AM 06-09-2024, John Scudder wrote:
>> Without commenting on its substance, I wanted to inform you that your 
>> "complaint to IESG dated 17 Aug 2024 03:34:56 +0200 wasn't received. 
>> At least, it's not in my inbox, nor those of colleagues I've checked 
>> with, nor the list archive. So this is the first we're seeing it. If 
>> there was additional material you think we should see, I'd suggest 
>> re-sending.
>>
>> I've raised ticket [rt5.ietf.org #35705] about the non-delivery. If 
>> you have anything (logs, etc) that would be relevant for 
>> troubleshooting, feel free to send that too.
>
> It is the first time I've seen a report of a non-delivery of a 
> complaint to the IESG.  Would it be possible to have the technical 
> details of #35705?

We are investigating, and I will summarize what we're able to see when 
we are done.

But note that, in general, messages can not make it through any list, 
not just the IESG list for a number of reasons - typically resulting in 
a bounce or a challenge to the sender. In this particular case we are 
looking to see if there was a challenge or other extra handshake that 
didn't complete (there is some unusual complexity involved).

>
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy
>
> P.S. I was not the sender of the email.
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