[Tools-discuss] Clarifying the state of and the transition plan for tools.ietf.org
Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Tue, 09 March 2021 18:16 UTC
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Subject: [Tools-discuss] Clarifying the state of and the transition plan for tools.ietf.org
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The services at tools.ietf.org are undergoing a transition. As most of you know Henrik Levkowetz has retired. He is continuing to support the services that he has provided for decades at tools.ietf.org on a best effort basis as we transition the essential features to LLC supported platforms. The plan is to finish the transition before IETF 111 and wind tools.ietf.org down. The process of moving these features has been ongoing for several years. Most have already been moved, but a few important ones remain. We have recently moved the tools.ietf.org style of presenting htmlized text documents into the Datatracker. The plan is to redirect those pages from tools.ietf.org into the Datatracker soon. We will be replacing the online xml2rfc and bibxml services with modern rewrites of the existing services. We are transitioning the svn/trac source repositories for the Datatracker and xml2rfc to the IETF Secretariat, with a longer term goal of moving them to GitHub. At the beginning of this meeting, we identified that the ability to add to individual sessions (as opposed to all sessions of a group) to a subscribable calendar needs to be added to the Datatracker. We will look again to identify any other features that need to be moved. But as you notice features at tools.ietf.org that are important but can't find at the Datatracker, please send a note either to me or to tools-discuss@ietf.org. Henrik and I communicate frequently, and he is supporting us with this transition on a best effort basis, but tools.ietf.org is not getting as much of his time as we have become accustomed to in the past. Please be patient with us during the next few months. As you identify issues with tools.ietf.org, please email Henrik or let me know, and I will bring them to Henrik's attention. In general, neither the IETF Secretariat nor the tools team can address issues at tools.ietf.org directly. Our focus will be on moving functionality to platforms like the Datatracker. I would like to express my gratitude for all of the support Henrik has provided to the community over the last couple of decades. Early on, long before we started projects like the Datatracker, he set up several tools on his own that became very popular with the community. During this time, the domain tools.ietf.org was delegated to him, and he used it to gather the volunteer created tooling from many contributors. As the community grew, we began hosting more services at the IETF Secretariat. During Russ Housley's tenure as IETF Chair, the tools team, under the IOAC's direction, began moving essential services to IETF Secretariat-supported platforms. Through donated and contracted time, Henrik has been helping make these transitions as an ongoing process. But tools.ietf.org continued to be a set of services that he maintained and improved primarily by himself or through coordinating other volunteer effort. Of course, Henrik was also a principal architect and contributor for the Datatracker and xml2rfc, and we are richer for all of his hard work over decades on so many tools. -- Robert Sparks Tools Team chair
- [Tools-discuss] Clarifying the state of and the t… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Clarifying the state of and t… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Clarifying the state of and t… Bill Gage
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Clarifying the state of and t… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Clarifying the state of and t… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Clarifying the state of and t… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Clarifying the state of and t… Florian Weimer