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administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Kyle Rose , Tools Team Discussion X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6 Precedence: list Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5BTools-discuss=5D_Re=3A_A_=22pronunciation=22_resource=3F?= List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > On 2 Nov 2025, at 12:47, John C Klensin wrote: >=20 > (2) Jay's question and implicit suggestion of having participates > record their own pronunciation of their names and storing the > consequent audio clip in the datatracker. When I wrote that it wasn=E2=80=99t an implicit suggestion but the = alternative of IPA horrifies me so much that I will now explicitly = suggest this for the following reasons: - no need to learn IPA - pronunciation guaranteed to be correct - low friction mechanism for participants if the technology is done = correctly - could be used to train transcription mechanisms inserting a name when = someone introduces themself I=E2=80=99d like to hear what people don=E2=80=99t like about it.=20 Jay --=20 Jay Daley IETF Executive Director exec-director@ietf.org