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Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Fri, 30 August 2019 04:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [Cellar] non-ascii characters (fwd) Dave Rice: non-ascii characters
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On 30.08.2019 06:20, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On Aug 27, 2019, at 23:06, Tom Pusateri <pusateri=40bangj.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> RFC 7997 is pretty clear when UTF-8 is permissible and math symbols are not in the list.
>
> I believe, with a 2019 perspective on the world, this is no longer the right decision.

Did the perspective change significantly within the last 4 years??

> We are incurring the costs of supporting Unicode but not reaping its benefits.
> Providing HTML as a main viewing format and not even being able to solve the hyphen-dash-minus problem leads to weird-looking documents.
> How is requiring SVG display support for understanding a document better than simply requiring Unicode support?

I do prefer proper hyphens, but I also note that the proper choice can
lead to bikeshedding.

My recollection is that we started with the use cases that seemed most
important back then. I'll also note that Unicode math characters won't
be sufficient in all cases, so MathML definitively is something to
consider as well.

Best regards, Julian

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