[Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 31 July 2021 22:30 UTC

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Subject: [Tools-discuss] Tools info on the main IETF web site
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Who keeps an eye on the tools material on the IETF web site?

While trying to assist a possible new contributor, I fell upon:
https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tutorials/process/creating-internet-drafts-and-rfcs/
which looks badly in need of a refresh to me. For example, it misses the excellent tutorial at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-edu-sessf-how-to-create-an-internet-draft-using-xml-or-markdown-markdown-01

We can have the best tools in the world, but they are no good to newcomers unless the main IETF web site is actively maintained.

Regards
   Brian