Re: [Tools-discuss] [rt5.ietf.org #6435] Unable to get mail back from alias expansion - expand-mediaman-chairs

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Thu, 19 May 2022 11:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [rt5.ietf.org #6435] Unable to get mail back from alias expansion - expand-mediaman-chairs
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The fix is basically to stop using aliases and instead use mailman (or 
another list expander that creates new MAIL FROM addresses) for these 
aliases too.

Harald


On 5/19/22 10:05, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On 2022-05-19, at 09:51, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote:
>>
>> Who's in charge of the interaction between mailer and -chairs aliases?
> 
> Well, this is a longstanding issue with the alias processor; this is based on a model that used to work when mail could simply be forwarded without extensive changes to the headers in the forwarder, which is no longer the case.
> 
> This seems to fall into the cracks of places where one can report issues, so I can’t point to a specific github issue now.
> 
> But see:
> 
> Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tools-discuss/jlXtfjrHTXMqvyfTbcrma38jITM>
> 
> …for an example of an (unworkable) workaround, or:
> 
> Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tools-discuss/AQewZU1Bj57DkKH4AfSdMADo6E4>
> 
> …for a “works as designed”.
> 
> Yes, we are talking about a problem actively preventing work (*) and not receiving any progress for a couple of years now.  I’m not complaining, as there indeed were more severe problems to be solved than mail arriving, but I will continue to try to push this up on the priority list.
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
> 
> (*) Got another mail from a draft author that didn’t find out I was talking to them until another draft author did a wide reply.  Today.
>