Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname should be latinFullname
Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Wed, 07 October 2020 16:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname should be latinFullname
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Hi Carsten, On 2020-10-07 17:39, Carsten Bormann wrote: > Hi Henrik, > > I was trying to respond to Julian here. > >> On 2020-10-07, at 17:01, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote: >> >> As for what 7991 is really talking about, interpreting 'ASCII' as >> “accessible to a reader familiar with the Latin writing system”, rather >> than strictly ASCII, I'll leave that interpretation as yours. That's not >> the understanding I got from 7991. > > Me neither, in particular with the example in the companion 7997 that > gave an ASCII-only “identifier” (cleverly avoiding the > transliteration/transcription dilemma) for a Latin name. However, it > seems to me that it simply didn’t occur to the people involved in the > process that led to RFC 799x that transliterations tend to use > beyond-ASCII characters (or they considered pure-ASCIIness more > important). > >> I indicated earlier that I thought expanding the use use of Latin >> to the case you raised was reasonable, but it seems that response >> wasn't enough for you, so now I have no idea of how to respond. > > No, I totally agree with your response. I just tried to answer > Julian’s question. Ah, ok. Good then. > So we do need a bit of a variance here from RFC 7991. We could do > that the same way all the other variances have been handled (such as > introducing the <contact/> element that didn't exist in RFC 7991 > either). I think the decision to permit Latin script for names applies here. I don't see this as a new decision, but a matter of applying an already settled question consistently. Best regards, Henrik > Or we could somehow convince ourselves this is suddenly a > major change (e.g., because the attributes are called > “ascii”something they really should stay ASCII-only). I don’t think > it is, but if I could post to the rfc-interest list, I would love to > hear whether people there agree, too. > > Grüße, Carsten > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >
- [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname should … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname sho… Carsten Bormann