Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname should be latinFullname

Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Wed, 07 October 2020 16:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] <contact/>: asciiFullname should be latinFullname
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Hi Carsten,

On 2020-10-07 17:39, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Hi Henrik,
> 
> I was trying to respond to Julian here.
> 
>> On 2020-10-07, at 17:01, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> As for what 7991 is really talking about, interpreting 'ASCII' as
>> “accessible to a reader familiar with the Latin writing system”, rather
>> than strictly ASCII, I'll leave that interpretation as yours.  That's not
>> the understanding I got from 7991.
> 
> Me neither, in particular with the example in the companion 7997 that
> gave an ASCII-only “identifier” (cleverly avoiding the
> transliteration/transcription dilemma) for a Latin name. However, it
> seems to me that it simply didn’t occur to the people involved in the
> process that led to RFC 799x that transliterations tend to use
> beyond-ASCII characters (or they considered pure-ASCIIness more
> important).
> 
>> I indicated earlier that I thought expanding the use use of Latin 
>> to the case you raised was reasonable, but it seems that response
>> wasn't enough for you, so now I have no idea of how to respond.
> 
> No, I totally agree with your response. I just tried to answer
> Julian’s question.

Ah, ok.  Good then.

> So we do need a bit of a variance here from RFC 7991. We could do
> that the same way all the other variances have been handled (such as
> introducing the <contact/> element that didn't exist in RFC 7991
> either).

I think the decision to permit Latin script for names applies here.  I
don't see this as a new decision, but a matter of applying an already
settled question consistently.


Best regards,

	Henrik

> Or we could somehow convince ourselves this is suddenly a
> major change (e.g., because the attributes are called
> “ascii”something they really should stay ASCII-only). I don’t think
> it is, but if I could post to the rfc-interest list, I would love to
> hear whether people there agree, too.
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
> 
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