[Tools-discuss] Re: Reminder re: mailman3 list owner/moderator roles

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Thu, 16 May 2024 13:51 UTC

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Yes - we have asked for this change.

The pattern to remember, in a pinch, in the meantime is 
mailman3.ietf.org/mailman3/lists/acronym@ietf.org

If the moderator message fix isn't going to come soon, we'll build 
another helper.

RjS

On 5/16/24 8:47 AM, Brian Rosen wrote:
> Could we get a link to the list page on the moderation emails or, even 
> better, the specific moderation request?  I have had to do too much 
> fumbling to respond to the moderation requests because there is no 
> link that even gets close.  I basically either have to remember the 
> pattern (hopeless), or just find it from the working group page in 
> datatracker.
>
> I personally think the footer for mail from the list should have the 
> list page link rather than a mailto, because the list address is in “To:”.
>
> Brian
>
>> On May 12, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 10:56 PM Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On 5/11/24 5:39 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote:
>>>     Robert/ToolsTeam/etc
>>>
>>>     Thanks for doing this - I know it was not easy.
>>>
>>>     Are the issues still being tracked here
>>>     https://github.com/ietf-tools/mailarchive/issues?
>>     For themailarchive.ietf.org
>>     <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/>application itself, yes.
>>>
>>>     I filed a RFE that for lists we are members or just owners of
>>>     there is a 'last message' column with a timestamp.
>>     We'll figure out where to move that - it _could_ be a request for
>>     the postorious developers (at mailman3) or it could be factored
>>     into the upcoming integration of the datatracker and mailman3
>>     (see the mockups
>>     athttps://www.ietf.org/media/documents/Mail_Subscription_Mockup_2021-10-12.pdf).
>>
>>
>> Thanks and I definitely flagged it as an RFE.  And thanks for that 
>> mock up - I know this is explaining all the options but it's a bit 
>> intense.
>>
>>
>>>     Or maybe that's an AD tool to help them shut down super old
>>>     mailing lists?3
>>     The IESG has already started an effort to clarify what's no
>>     longer active, and there are a lot that really should be marked
>>     more clearly archival. One of the interesting corners in that
>>     effort is understanding that a few lists that are very latent
>>     have not necessarily concluded their purpose.
>>
>>
>> I think it was a combination of looking at all the lists I am 
>> subscribed to + watching the Int ADs starting the thankless task of 
>> shutting down old lists (our tech debt).
>>
>> tim
>