Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix and zulip

[Johanna S <[e-mail]>]

On 02.10.20 01:43, Matthew Hodgson wrote:
> On the other hand, XMPP<->Matrix bridging is pretty good

Not sure if that was meant as a funny joke or if you ever actually tried
to use that bridge from the XMPP side. It has such severe bugs that it
is hardly usable with any modern XMPP client. You can't even leave a
room [1]. I know several server operators that blacklisted the gateway
because its non-compliance caused problems with clients.

A good bridge is standard-compliant and gives good UX *on both sides* of
the bridge, not only on the Matrix side. In my experience, the bot-based
bridging approach (like Matterbridge) is a better way to do a
XMPP<->Matrix bridge than the bifrost bridge, when looking from the XMPP
side - because at least everything works as it should and is
standard-compliant, even if every message got an ugly prefix.

I have hard times understanding how Matrix folks praise their XMPP
bridge while at the same time XMPP people tell you that the bridge is
working really *really* bad. If Matrix.org was a for-profit company, I'd
tend to say it's just empty marketing claims to fraud customers.

Johanna

[1] https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-bifrost/issues/53