Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix and zulip
Johanna S <jhsrdr@gmx.de> Fri, 02 October 2020 11:44 UTC
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On 02.10.20 01:43, Matthew Hodgson wrote: > On the other hand, XMPP<->Matrix bridging is pretty good Not sure if that was meant as a funny joke or if you ever actually tried to use that bridge from the XMPP side. It has such severe bugs that it is hardly usable with any modern XMPP client. You can't even leave a room [1]. I know several server operators that blacklisted the gateway because its non-compliance caused problems with clients. A good bridge is standard-compliant and gives good UX *on both sides* of the bridge, not only on the Matrix side. In my experience, the bot-based bridging approach (like Matterbridge) is a better way to do a XMPP<->Matrix bridge than the bifrost bridge, when looking from the XMPP side - because at least everything works as it should and is standard-compliant, even if every message got an ugly prefix. I have hard times understanding how Matrix folks praise their XMPP bridge while at the same time XMPP people tell you that the bridge is working really *really* bad. If Matrix.org was a for-profit company, I'd tend to say it's just empty marketing claims to fraud customers. Johanna [1] https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-bifrost/issues/53
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Adam Roach
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Adam Roach
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Matthew Hodgson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Matthew Hodgson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Matthew Hodgson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Johanna S
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Glen
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Glen
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Kim Alvefur
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Matthew Hodgson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Matthew Hodgson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Dave Cridland
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Glen
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Dave Cridland
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Dave Cridland
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Dave Cridland
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Matthew Wild
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Matthew Wild
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Matthew Wild
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Trial chat services: matrix a… Ted Lemon