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Re: [Tools-discuss] [rt5.ietf.org #6435] Unable to get mail back from alias expansion - expand-mediaman-chairs

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Thu, 19 May 2022 15:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [rt5.ietf.org #6435] Unable to get mail back from alias expansion - expand-mediaman-chairs
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> 
> I think that the IETF should have rejected all email from sites with a p=reject
> policy.  That would have made many of the problems apparent to the senders.

The problem already is apparent.

Victim blaming is not the solution.
Fixing the problem (doing DMARC rewrite workaround games) is the solution.
It’s just too bad that this fell into a black hole of a mailman3 migration that needs to be done first and various other priorities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_debt

> I'm still waiting for ARC to solve the problems, but I don't think it will
> help.

The only viable solution is not having the problem in the first place (i.e., not doing forwarding without rewriting).

Grüße, Carsten

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