Re: [Tools-discuss] Sup to nuts

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Wed, 07 July 2021 16:59 UTC

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On 2021-07-07, at 18:14, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I’ve been using the “sup” XML element (superscript). It goes well through the Markdown tooling, and through xml2rfc v3.4.0 (with –v3). But then it bombs when I submit the I-D. Is this just a version difference, or should I somehow set xml2rfc to be more strict?
>  
> FWIW, this message “Element sup is not declared in t list of possible children” appears to contradict RFC 7991.

Hi Yaron,

you are submitting something that the nostalgic software at the submission point believes to be a pure v2 document, and this it enforces historic purity.

In order to persuade this software that it’s 2021, you need to convert it to pristine v3 first.

You can do that with

kdrfc -3c foo.md

or, if you prefer to work from the xml output, by 

kdrfc -3c foo.xml
or
xml2rfc --v2v3 foo.xml

In all of these cases, you get a foo.v2v3.xml that can be submitted without invoking v2 nostalgia in the submission software.

Grüße, Carsten


(Yes, I know that the submission service will be fixed very soon.)