Re: [Tools-implementation] Draft of message noting that we will allow xml2rfc to produce text formatted as an RFC but paginated with page numbers.

Glen <glen@amsl.com> Wed, 09 December 2020 19:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tools-implementation] Draft of message noting that we will allow xml2rfc to produce text formatted as an RFC but paginated with page numbers.
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No issues that I can see, I think it is okay, although I'm not the most 
qualified to judge this topic area. ;-)

Glen

On 12/9/2020 09:11, Robert Sparks wrote:
> Tools-implementation team (plus Jay): -
> 
> I plan to send the below note to tools-discuss and forward a pointer to 
> it on the ietf list and rfc-interest on Friday unless I hear a request 
> for something significantly different from you before then.
> 
> Please comment. If you think this is ok as is, please say so.
> 
> RjS
> 
> ----------
> 
> Subject: Allowing xml2rfc to generate text documents with page numbers
> 
> The RFCs that define the format specifications for RFCs are clear that 
> the published rendered text format for RFCs will not have page numbers.
> 
> However, we have received many requests to allow the rendering tool to 
> add those numbers when people are rendering documents locally for their 
> own purposes. Adding and maintaining support for that is trivial, and we 
> plan to make that available via a command-line argument in an upcoming 
> release of xml2rfc.
> 
> This isn't a change to how RFCs will be published - published RFCs will 
> continue to follow the format requirements from RFC 7994 and the 
> discussions around the revision of the documents defining the RFC 
> formats. Those wishing to change how RFCs are published should 
> contribute to future efforts revising those specifications.
> 
> In general, the formatters will be able to produce a superset of what is 
> required for RFC publication, and we anticipate that new capabilities 
> will be added when there is appropriate demand.
> 
> We acknowledge the concerns around the potential for confusion raised 
> during the discussion of the request for this capability. However, we 
> note that it is possible to generate a document with the current tools 
> that looks like a published RFC with completely different content. 
> Addressing this potential for confusion is not an issue to solve with 
> the formatting tools.
> 
> Robert Sparks, Tools Team Chair
> 
> 
>