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Re: [tram] QoS for RTC over the Internet, DISCUSS: Milestone 3: TURN server auto-discovery mechanism for enterprise and ISPs

Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> Mon, 17 February 2014 13:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tram] QoS for RTC over the Internet, DISCUSS: Milestone 3: TURN server auto-discovery mechanism for enterprise and ISPs
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Le 2014-02-17 08:10, Karl Stahl a écrit :
> 2) When such a TURN server flow is allocated, it can ASSUME that it is
> going to used for real-time traffic and instruct the network (e g via
> setting diffserve bits) to prioritize the assumed real-time traffic.
> (Giving the same prioritization to all TURN traffic works quite well. –
> Only if we fill the whole pipe with prioritized traffic (best effort
> totally pushed off) is it important that e.g. voice if prioritized
> higher than video).

What happens if subscribers start using the TURN server for BitTorrent
traffic?

(It can and it will happen if an ISP offers significant QoS enhancements
to TURN traffic. It takes just one person to implement it in
Transmission and then overnight the TURN server becomes saturated.)

Simon
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