Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-turn-bandwidth-00.txt

"Yoakum, John H (John)" <yoakum@avaya.com> Thu, 20 February 2014 18:56 UTC

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+1
I fully agree with the comments that QOS should be a low priority for the initial focus of the TRAM efforts.  There are other groups doing QOS work and frankly I engage in WebRTC multimedia interactions daily over the Internet, enterprise VPNs, and various combinations and seldom suffer egregious quality issues.  I am more concerned about carriers doing things to regulate or degrade WebRTC flows than a failure of existing Internet mechanisms to enable them.

Significant focus on QOS before we better enable TURN to be easily used in a browser environment taking advantage or normal web characteristics (as opposed to historic telephony constructs) would seem to be highly distracting at this point.


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John

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Subject: Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-turn-bandwidth-00.txt



On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Alan Johnston <alan.b.johnston@gmail.com<mailto:alan.b.johnston@gmail.com>> wrote:



Personally, I am not sure how much QoS is actually in scope for TRAM. Have you been following RMCAT where congestion avoidance for RTP is being developed?  I see some overlap in your goals and the goals of that work.
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I'd concentrate on the TURN application-level functionality, for now, and I'd leave QoS for the future discussions.