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Re: [tram] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-tram-turn-third-party-authz-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

"Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" <tireddy@cisco.com> Thu, 23 April 2015 12:22 UTC

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From: "Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" <tireddy@cisco.com>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Williams [mailto:brandon.williams@akamai.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 12:09 AM
> To: Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy); Stephen Farrell; The IESG
> Cc: tram-chairs@ietf.org; tram@ietf.org; draft-ietf-tram-turn-third-party-
> authz@ietf.org; gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com; draft-ietf-tram-turn-third-
> party-authz.ad@ietf.org; draft-ietf-tram-turn-third-party-
> authz.shepherd@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [tram] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-tram-turn-third-
> party-authz-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> 
> On 04/15/2015 12:06 PM, Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Brandon Williams [mailto:brandon.williams@akamai.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 6:36 PM
> >>
> >> On 04/10/2015 11:07 PM, Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) wrote:
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie]
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 1:08 AM
> >>>> - 9: Figure 2 should be way up at the top of the document and not
> >>>> here
> >>>
> >>> In the previous versions it was in the top of the document but moved
> >> down after comments received from the WG that WebRTC is only an
> >> example usage of third party authorization.
> >>
> >> A few people from outside the WG have commented on having trouble
> >> following the flow of the document on their first read, primarily due
> >> to the lack of a high-level picture early in the document. Moving
> >> section 9 back up toward the top of the document would help by giving
> >> readers such a high- level overview early on. The discussion might
> >> need to be generalized a bit in order to serve this purpose, but
> >> comments we've received on the document's usability indicate that this
> change would be helpful.
> >
> > Section 9 is specific to TURN and the ask from the WG is to discuss it in a
> separate section after third party authorization with STUN protocol is
> explained.
> 
> Enough people who were not actively involved in formulation of the draft
> have commented on understandability issues that I think it would be good
> to make some effort in that area. 

I have re-arranged sections 9 and 3. Attached updated draft with diff, Please have a look.

-Tiru

> If section 9 cannot be generalized and
> moved earlier in the document as a way to help readers from outside the
> WG understand the context, then I think something else probably still needs
> to be done.
> 
> --Brandon
> 
> --
> Brandon Williams; Chief Architect
> Cloud Networking; Akamai Technologies Inc.

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