Re: [tram] A note from your (so far) friendly AD ...
Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> Tue, 25 February 2014 17:36 UTC
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From: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:36:28 -0800
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Subject: Re: [tram] A note from your (so far) friendly AD ...
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+1, let us not try to solve problems we are not chartered to solve On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Spencer Dawkins < spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear TRAMsters, > > If I might offer a couple of suggestions to a new working group ... > > The TSV area diverts QoS discussions to the TSVWG working group, because > that's where the QoS DSCP expertise lives. > > RTCWeb and TSVWG are having a robust and so-far productive discussion > about QoS for RTCWeb now (by "robust", I mean "involving chairs and ADs for > both working groups"). That discussion is more likely to be productive if > RTCWeb QoS topics don't start popping up on other working group mailing > lists, like this one. > > I'll let your working group chairs actually run the working group, but I > note as more than an interested observer that the TRAM agenda at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/89/agenda/tram/ is really tight, and > I would really be happier if the working group focuses on the currently > chartered milestones and demonstrates that you can deliver what you're > already signed up to deliver, before adding more milestones. The rest of > the IESG would be happier as well. > > Thanks, and see you in London. > > Spencer, as your responsible AD > > On 02/18/2014 03:33 PM, Simon Perreault wrote: > >> Le 2014-02-18 16:12, Oleg Moskalenko a écrit : >> >>> How to handle the DS and ECN fields is a part of TURN server RFC (see >>> the section 12): >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc5766#section-12 >>> >>> And a good TURN server is supposed to implement that. >>> >> Well, the RFC just says that the TURN server should copy the DSCP from >> one side to the other when doing en/de-capsulation. It doesn't say that >> the server should actually do QoS based on the DSCP. My point is that >> there's nothing preventing the server from actually doing it. >> >> Anyway, I was expecting responses along the lines of "DiffServ doesn't >> work on the Internet in general." To which I would have replied: "then >> couldn't we define a STUN attribute for transporting the DSCP in the >> payload?" Instead of inventing a new taxonomy (audio, video, slides, >> etc.), why not reuse DSCP? >> >> Simon >> > > _______________________________________________ > tram mailing list > tram@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tram >
- [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-turn-b… Alan Johnston
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Alan Johnston
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Oleg Moskalenko
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Simon Perreault
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Oleg Moskalenko
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Simon Perreault
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Oleg Moskalenko
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Oleg Moskalenko
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal (mperumal)
- Re: [tram] I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-turn-ba… Pal Martinsen (palmarti)
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Simon Perreault
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Karl Stahl
- Re: [tram] I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-turn-ba… Karl Stahl
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Alan Johnston
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Justin Uberti
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Oleg Moskalenko
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Yoakum, John H (John)
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Michael Hammer
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Oleg Moskalenko
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Michael Hammer
- Re: [tram] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-tu… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [tram] [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-thomson-tra… Karl Stahl
- Re: [tram] I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-turn-ba… Pal Martinsen (palmarti)
- Re: [tram] I-D Action: draft-thomson-tram-turn-ba… Alan Johnston
- [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting TRA… Karl Stahl
- Re: [tram] [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-thomson-tra… Pal Martinsen (palmarti)
- Re: [tram] [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-thomson-tra… Karl Stahl
- [tram] A note from your (so far) friendly AD ... Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [tram] A note from your (so far) friendly AD … Justin Uberti
- Re: [tram] A note from your (so far) friendly AD … Mary Barnes
- Re: [tram] A note from your (so far) friendly AD … James Polk
- Re: [tram] A note from your (so far) friendly AD … Mary Barnes
- Re: [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [tram] [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-thomson-tra… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting… Barry Leiba
- Re: [tram] A note from your (so far) friendly AD … Gonzalo Camarillo
- [tram] BCP over TURN will not be in scope ... and… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [tram] BCP over TURN will not be in scope ...… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [tram] BCP over TURN will not be in scope ...… Simon Perreault
- Re: [tram] BCP over TURN will not be in scope ...… Gonzalo Camarillo
- [tram] [rtcweb] The way to "Interfacing to QoS", … Karl Stahl
- Re: [tram] [rtcweb] The way to "Interfacing to Qo… Simon Perreault
- Re: [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting… Karl Stahl
- Re: [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting… Karl Stahl
- Re: [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting… Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [tram] [RTCWEB] [TRAM] Protesting: Requesting… Karl Stahl
- Re: [tram] [rtcweb] RTP header extension for "Int… Karl Stahl