Re: [tram] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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From: "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" <gsalguei@cisco.com>
To: Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>
CC: "Felipe Garrido (fegarrid)" <fegarrid@cisco.com>, "tram-chairs@ietf.org" <tram-chairs@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud@ietf.org>, "iesg@ietf.org" <iesg@ietf.org>, "tasveren@rbbn.com" <tasveren@rbbn.com>, "tram@ietf.org" <tram@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [tram] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [tram] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-tram-stun-pmtud-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Gonzalo - 

We have published version -11 to add Felipe Garrido as the new document editor. This version also addressed Ben’s DISCUSS.  A version -12 is imminent to address Suresh and Adam’s DISCUSSes (we’ve been dealing with some unresponsiveness which has added to the delay). Finally, we address Mirja’s DISCUSS last as it requires a bit more discussion.  This is actively being pursued and we hope to get this document to the RFC Editor ASAP.  Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Gonzalo

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:03 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> wrote:
> 
> Authors,
> 
> what is the current status of this? The tracker has this draft in the
> "Revised ID needed" state. Who is taking the next step? Thanks.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gonzalo
> 
> On 26-Aug-19 18:15, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 02:11:22PM +0000, Felipe Garrido (fegarrid) wrote:
>>> Ben, 
>>> 
>>> I agree with the improvement but would rather use the same terminology as in rfc4821. 
>>> It' would be, 
>>> 
>>> The packets that are to be associated to a given flow's identifier are selected according to Section 5.2 of [RFC4821]."
>> 
>> That works for me; thanks!
>> 
>> -Ben
>>