Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry
Ben Laurie <benl@google.com> Wed, 16 November 2016 11:48 UTC
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From: Ben Laurie <benl@google.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 11:48:19 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry
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On 16 November 2016 at 11:39, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Nov 2016, Ben Laurie wrote: > > (no hats on) > >> On 16 November 2016 at 03:46, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote: >>> >>> How can I as log consumer detect the difference between the log removing >>> illegal content and the log being compelled by a government to hide a >>> rogue >>> certificate? >> >> >> Court orders are court orders. That issue is not in the log's domain. > > > It was an example. the core isuse is, how can a consumer determine the > log censored itself with a valid reason, versus an attack, compromise, > having been compelled, or for financial gain or any other invalid reason? > > Using a hash of a removed cert won't allow anyone to verify the reason > for removal. And clearly the content cannot remain their either. It's > a catch22. This is why the redaction reason entry exists, so that there _is_ something to reason about. If you (a consumer) are unconvinced by the reason, well, there are public fora where you can voice your concerns.
- [Trans] How to redact an entry Ben Laurie
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Paul Wouters
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Paul Wouters
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Ben Laurie
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Ben Laurie
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Paul Wouters
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Ben Laurie
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Eran Messeri
- Re: [Trans] How to redact an entry Peter Bowen