Re: [Trans] Threat model outline, attack model
Dmitry Belyavsky <beldmit@gmail.com> Mon, 15 September 2014 22:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Trans] Threat model outline, attack model
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Hello Stephen, On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> wrote: > Dimitry, > > Stephen, > > thank you for the formal description of treat model. > > But I think that the Auditors should be mentioned in it too. If I am not > mistaken, they are designed to watch the certificates with suspicious > properties (CA permissions, etc.). > > So the treats which are to be avoided using the Auditors seems to be > missing.is case, the CT mechanisms have detected mis-issuance, but are > not able to remedy the problem. (See Note 4 below.) > > > In 6962-bis (-04) the definition of the Auditor function is: > > Auditors take partial information about a log as input and verify > > that this information is consistent with other partial information > > they have. > > This is way too vague to be meaningful. So, I agree that an Auditor might > be relevant > to the attack analysis, I didn't include it this time because there is not > a sufficiently > detailed description of its functions. The examples of what an Auditor > "can" do don't > mention checking cert content against a set of criteria. They focus on > detecting log > inconsistencies. So, maybe Auditors should be mentioned in the discussion > of detecting > log misbehavior. > > My fault. The certs with unnecessery permissions are a subject to be Monitored, not Audited. There is a high-level description of the Auditors here: http://www.certificate-transparency.org/what-is-ct: ===== Auditors are lightweight software components that typically perform two functions. First, they can verify that logs are behaving correctly and are cryptographically consistent. If a log is not behaving properly, then the log will need to explain itself or risk being shut down. Second, they can verify that a particular certificate appears in a log. This is a particularly important auditing function because the Certificate Transparency framework requires that all SSL certificates be registered in a log. If a certificate has not been registered in a log, it’s a sign that the certificate is suspect, and TLS clients may refuse to connect to sites that have suspect certificates. ===== It is not integrated as a part of neither RFC 6962 nor current draft, but it provides a high-level explanation of the Auditors' role. -- SY, Dmitry Belyavsky
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