Re: [Trans] A counter-argument (Re: DNSSEC also needs CT)

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Sat, 10 May 2014 10:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Trans] A counter-argument (Re: DNSSEC also needs CT)
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On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> wrote:
> A counter-argument would be that DNSSEC is like PKI with name
> constraints done properly, and with most domains being children of
> TLDs, there's really only two entities that can MITM them: the root
> and the TLD registrars.

... and the (outsourced) DNS operator and the DNS parent(s) / registry..

This is also the set of folk who can update  / return other answers
for MX queries, and so, if willing to dink with stuff, could obtain a
domain validated cert. I suspect we may be getting somewhat off topic
for Trans, and into discussions we have had a number of times on the
DANE list...
W


>
> Therefore the risk of dishonest "CAs" is lower for DNSSEC than it is for PKI.
>
> I've seen skepticism about CT along the lines of "who will pay?" and
> "it's just another tax".  I don't think that should be dismissed out
> of hand.  But I do think that in the long run we should do anything
> that we can do and that is economical (very important, that) to make
> it easier to at least catch misbehaving CAs/registrars/...  the jury
> is still out as to whether CT be economical, right?
>
> Nico
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